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A new format for the Warriors Club?
Important Question Regarding the WC - Voting Complete! See Inside for Results/Details
As some may have noticed, WI has been down all day today, and still has yet to come back up. During this time, Tornadostorm and I have been discussing the future of the Warriors Club, and how, even if WI does come back up, the club likely won't be able to keep itself going there forever, whether due to inactivity or the event of WI closing for real.
During our discussions, we considered two possible alternatives to the WI thread, which I'll detail here:
1 - Chicken Smoothie has a fairly large and active Warriors fanclub of their own, which our club could potentially merge with. This solution would likely take a lot of work, as we'd have a lot of things to consider by merging with another already-developed club, but Tornado and I had a chance to speak with this club's owner earlier today, who gave their approval of the idea. If it worked out, this would probably bring increased activity to the club(s), and to ETF.
2 - Moving our club entirely to ETF. We could create a Warriors subforum, as we've considered doing in the past, so that we'd still have a large place for discussion of the series, and possibly a special forum dedicated to holding ceremonies. As for gaining new members, we could potentially become a "sister club" of sorts to the club on Chicken Smoothie, and members from there could join our site if they wish. Things would probably be pretty much as they are now, but ETF might see more of an increase in activity between being the club's official home and possibly gaining some new members.
Additionally, if anyone has a different idea, feel free to bring it up here on this thread. All input is greatly appreciated; thank you. <3
EDIT: We've reached the decision to move our club to ETF. Thanks for your votes, everyone!
During our discussions, we considered two possible alternatives to the WI thread, which I'll detail here:
1 - Chicken Smoothie has a fairly large and active Warriors fanclub of their own, which our club could potentially merge with. This solution would likely take a lot of work, as we'd have a lot of things to consider by merging with another already-developed club, but Tornado and I had a chance to speak with this club's owner earlier today, who gave their approval of the idea. If it worked out, this would probably bring increased activity to the club(s), and to ETF.
2 - Moving our club entirely to ETF. We could create a Warriors subforum, as we've considered doing in the past, so that we'd still have a large place for discussion of the series, and possibly a special forum dedicated to holding ceremonies. As for gaining new members, we could potentially become a "sister club" of sorts to the club on Chicken Smoothie, and members from there could join our site if they wish. Things would probably be pretty much as they are now, but ETF might see more of an increase in activity between being the club's official home and possibly gaining some new members.
Additionally, if anyone has a different idea, feel free to bring it up here on this thread. All input is greatly appreciated; thank you. <3
EDIT: We've reached the decision to move our club to ETF. Thanks for your votes, everyone!
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Re: Important Question Regarding the WC - Voting Complete! See Inside for Results/Details
After some consideration, I would rather the club stay here on ETF, though I wouldn't mind particularly either way. As long as this site becomes more active, I'm cool with it.
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While I understand that staying here might make sense, and we might get a few new members here and there, I'm trying to think in the long term; honestly, I get the feeling ETF can't stand on it's own two legs. Like it needs a firmer foundation. Probably quickly, new kits from CS will dry up, without the easy access, and then we'll be in the exact same boat then as we are now.
Also I never expected every warrior to want to move to CS, and I totally respect their decision. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Stealth didn't want to make the change.
But a large part of the problem of our clubs inactivity (cause by WI's dying) is the lack of new kits to replace the older warriors, who have become inactive. There have always been inactive warriors, ones who used to be active yet aren't anymore, and so on. But only recently have there been no young spirits to replace them. I'm worried if we stay on ETF, that won't change. At least not much.
So while I get people who want to stay, it's easy and comfortable, and I respect that, I feel it might be better in the long term to move to CS. We might also make some great new friends.
Also I never expected every warrior to want to move to CS, and I totally respect their decision. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Stealth didn't want to make the change.
But a large part of the problem of our clubs inactivity (cause by WI's dying) is the lack of new kits to replace the older warriors, who have become inactive. There have always been inactive warriors, ones who used to be active yet aren't anymore, and so on. But only recently have there been no young spirits to replace them. I'm worried if we stay on ETF, that won't change. At least not much.
So while I get people who want to stay, it's easy and comfortable, and I respect that, I feel it might be better in the long term to move to CS. We might also make some great new friends.
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Looking at the options and details, I'd actually be happy with either alternative. If one failed, I'd happily embrace the other as a backup.
I voted ETF, simply because I feel that part of the club's inactivity is due to inability to talk about non-Warriors topics, and remain close friends over other subjects as interest in Warriors shrinks, or topics regarding Warriors deplete. On ETF that friendship has been allowed to grow in free speech.
I don't know how to solve the new members problem, though, regarding WI members who haven't joined ETF, or even interested CS members. Maybe a username-check, and a notification-check for CS? CS says they want to join, brief gate open, user match? Just an idea. Idk how to fully cook it or put it into action.
I voted ETF, simply because I feel that part of the club's inactivity is due to inability to talk about non-Warriors topics, and remain close friends over other subjects as interest in Warriors shrinks, or topics regarding Warriors deplete. On ETF that friendship has been allowed to grow in free speech.
I don't know how to solve the new members problem, though, regarding WI members who haven't joined ETF, or even interested CS members. Maybe a username-check, and a notification-check for CS? CS says they want to join, brief gate open, user match? Just an idea. Idk how to fully cook it or put it into action.
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Stealth—you articulated what I was thinking perfectly. I lacked enough time and energy at that moment to write a full response, but I think that's exactly why I voted to stay.
Of course, I still understand why you want to move to CS, and again, I am not opposed to it by any means. I would just prefer we stay here, as I (and many other members) have lost interest in Warriors altogether but are still fully capable of discussing other topics. ETF would encourage that freedom a lot more than CS, I think.
Of course, I still understand why you want to move to CS, and again, I am not opposed to it by any means. I would just prefer we stay here, as I (and many other members) have lost interest in Warriors altogether but are still fully capable of discussing other topics. ETF would encourage that freedom a lot more than CS, I think.
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Yep! We're not getting rid of ETF though, just to confirm. If we merge with CS we will spread ETF to them so they can enjoy it too :3
And also just to confirm we probably wouldn't loose our clans/ranks either, because their owner agrees to it, and we just need the approval of their club members (which I'm sure we'll ask for at a later date) and I would be surprised if they didn't like the idea of ranks.
And also just to confirm we probably wouldn't loose our clans/ranks either, because their owner agrees to it, and we just need the approval of their club members (which I'm sure we'll ask for at a later date) and I would be surprised if they didn't like the idea of ranks.
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*sees that the vote is tied rite nao
*HNNNNGH!!* O_O'
*HNNNNGH!!* O_O'
- Spoiler:
- [FULL COMPANY]
The Warriors merge of 2017
[TORNADOSTORM]
Can we get back to politics?
[STEALTHY] *crying over the feels of another fandom*
Please?
[TORNADOSTORM]
Yo. Ev’ry action has an equal, opposite reaction
The forummotion's kinda tense. I loved the site, but it's in traction
Poor Webkinz Insider? It is missing in action
So now I’m trying—
[TORNADOSTORM AND STEALTHY]
CS!
[TORNADO]
With its own faction!
[STEALTH]
It's very attractive in WI. Old members like its chances.
[TWISTER]
It's not very forthcoming on any particular stances.
[STRALTH]
Ask it a question: it links a rule sheet, obfuscates and dances.
[TORNADOCOOKIEDOUGH]
And they say WI is dying; at least its fans grew UP with Webkinz.
[STEAKEH]
Twister, that’s the problem, see, they see CS as a less extreme WI.
[SHARKNADO]
Ha!
[STEALTHLOCK]
You need to change course, a key endorsement might redeem it.
[TVIST]
Who did you have in mind?
[FOX]
Don’t laugh
[SARAHSTUFFIES9]
Who is it?
[KATIEKINZ8]
It's still alive, but its heart line's flat.
[WHAAAAAAAT]
Whaaaat
[FAUX PAW]
It might be nice, it might be nice
To get old members on your side
[STEALTHSTORM SISTERS]
It might be nice, it might be nice
To get old members on your side
[CHICKEN SMOOTHIE]
Talk less!
Smile more!
Don’t let ‘em know what you’re against or what you’re for!
Shake hands with him!
Charm her!
And the new rares are here! Come get 'em before March 3rd!
[MALE VOTER]
Webkinz Insider?
[FEMALE VOTER]
Well, it's gonna die, that’s just defeatist.
[ANOTHER MALE VOTER]
And Chicken Smoothie--
[TWO MEN]
Limited speech.
[ANOTHER FEMALE VOTER]
Yeah, it's so elitist!
[TWO WOMEN]
I like that ETF!
[A WOMAN]
The gates are closed to prevent spam??
[A MAN]
Its speech is open tho?
[ANOTHER MALE VOTER]
Look! Stealthy's busy quoting Ham!!
[ENSEMBLE]
Dear WI members: your fellow Warriors would like to know how you’ll be voting
[WI]
Refresh and retry
[ENSEMBLE]
Dear WI members: The site is dying, need to move, so who are you promoting?
[WI]
Refresh and retry :(
[EVERYONE]
ETF or CS?
We know it’s win-win
ETF or CS?
But when your vote is in
[EVEN MORE VOTERS]
Dear WI members
The old site doesn’t stand a chance so who are you promoting?
But if you had to choose
[MEN]
ETF or CS?
We know it’s win-win
ETF or CS?
But when your vote is in
[WI]
Well, if it isn’t ETF, Sir!
[ETF]
Webkinz Insider!
[WI]
You’ve created quite a stir, sir!
[ETF]
I’m going for a poll!
[WI]
You’re getting voters from Webkinz?
[ETF]
Let's roll!
[WI]
That’s new o_O
[ETF]
Honestly, I'm happy whoever wins!
[WI]
ETF
[ETF]
Yeh?
[WI]
Is there anything you wouldn’t do?
[ETF]
Well, yeah, duh, I wouldn't be mean.
And you know what?
[WI]
What?
[ETF]
I learned that from you c:
[WI]
My baby :'o Go forth and be--GH!! Server error, too many users, wait how is that possible--*CRASH* *beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep......* *sad violin*
[ENSEMBLE]
If you had to choose
If you had to choose
[STEALTH]
It’s a tie!
[ENSEMBLE]
If you had to choose
If you had to choose
[TWIST]
It’s up to the Warriors!
[ENSEMBLE]
If you had to choose
If you had to choose
[STEALTHSTORM SISTERS]
It’s up to--actually all those guys who haven't voted yet!
[VOTERS]
If you had to choose
If you had to choose
If you had to
Choose
Choose
Choose!
[STEALTH/
ENSEMBLE]
ETF or CS?
Choose
Choose
Choose!
[ENSEMBLE]
ETF or CS?
CHEWS
CHEWS
CHEWS
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I feel like that whole spoilered thing is a parody of something I don't get. xD
But it appears WI is back up, at least for now. Still, that definitely doesn't eliminate moving as an option. WI isn't a great site to begin with, and it could do this again at any given time with no warning.
But it appears WI is back up, at least for now. Still, that definitely doesn't eliminate moving as an option. WI isn't a great site to begin with, and it could do this again at any given time with no warning.
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Mistystar wrote: Even if WI does come back up, the club likely won't be able to keep itself going there forever, whether due to inactivity or the event of WI closing for real.
Yeah, we're still gonna move xD Man though, a whole new start! I'm kind of excited, honestly
And what Stealth was parodying is Hamilton xDDDD *loves the music from that musical* <3
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WI's back??
QUICK GET A BEACON READY OR A TEMPORARY CHATZY OR SOMETHING GET THEM OUT WHILE WE CAN STILL CONTACT THEM GET AN UP TO DATE LIST OF NAMES TO CHECK AGAINST CALL THE FIRE BRIGADE AND THE MOUNTIES AND THE PIZZA GUY
QUICK GET A BEACON READY OR A TEMPORARY CHATZY OR SOMETHING GET THEM OUT WHILE WE CAN STILL CONTACT THEM GET AN UP TO DATE LIST OF NAMES TO CHECK AGAINST CALL THE FIRE BRIGADE AND THE MOUNTIES AND THE PIZZA GUY
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That's what I thought. It would make sense even if WI's servers weren't down.
I thought it sounded like Hamilton, but I'm just making sure xD
I wonder how we'll remain in contact with members who once quit the WC and return later on. It does happen sometimes, and if someone comes back only to see that we've abandoned the WI site, they might be disheartened or even worried. Not the worst-case-scenario, of course, but I wish informing them could somehow be possible. Does anyone have any ideas for how to combat this (if I even worded it in a comprehensible way)?
I thought it sounded like Hamilton, but I'm just making sure xD
I wonder how we'll remain in contact with members who once quit the WC and return later on. It does happen sometimes, and if someone comes back only to see that we've abandoned the WI site, they might be disheartened or even worried. Not the worst-case-scenario, of course, but I wish informing them could somehow be possible. Does anyone have any ideas for how to combat this (if I even worded it in a comprehensible way)?
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If that's the case, I could make a post on the club saying where we went, once that's decided :3
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Hi you guys <3
I'm pleased to see you all taking initiative and finding solutions to the club's inactivity problem. I was worried that with the eventual death of WI that the club would die as well...it doesn't seem as though that will be an issue ^.^ It's too good of a club to lose with too many wonderful people. Bravo
As for redirecting old members once the site is dead: I'm not sure if it would work, but you could perhaps make a forum or blog called "Webkinz Insider Warriors Club", that way even if the site is down that, in the very least, your website might show up as a first result. You could post directory information on the front page, and if you really wanted to get fancy you could even perhaps make the website a dedication to old posts/memories from the WI site. A memorial so to speak.
I also think the Chicken Smoothie idea is a great one, but just make sure that the club doesn't lose itself in the process. It's a tough call, but I know you all will make the right choice.
But yeah, just wanted to drop in and say hello. Best of luck, and may the family live on for generations to come
I'm pleased to see you all taking initiative and finding solutions to the club's inactivity problem. I was worried that with the eventual death of WI that the club would die as well...it doesn't seem as though that will be an issue ^.^ It's too good of a club to lose with too many wonderful people. Bravo
As for redirecting old members once the site is dead: I'm not sure if it would work, but you could perhaps make a forum or blog called "Webkinz Insider Warriors Club", that way even if the site is down that, in the very least, your website might show up as a first result. You could post directory information on the front page, and if you really wanted to get fancy you could even perhaps make the website a dedication to old posts/memories from the WI site. A memorial so to speak.
I also think the Chicken Smoothie idea is a great one, but just make sure that the club doesn't lose itself in the process. It's a tough call, but I know you all will make the right choice.
But yeah, just wanted to drop in and say hello. Best of luck, and may the family live on for generations to come
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Thank you, Silvy :D It means allot <3 we'll do our best to keep this club alive.
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OK; I think we've reached a good number of votes, and can now bring the poll to a close. Thanks to everyone for their input. <3
The winning option is move the club entirely to ETF!
I've done some thinking on how to go about this move, and ultimately decided that when we make ETF's first official WC thread, it should get its own personal subforum in the "join the club" section of the site. Any future WC threads after this one could be made there, as well.
Lastly, I feel I should ask just one more, small question before we go ahead with things: is everyone ready for the move now?
The winning option is move the club entirely to ETF!
I've done some thinking on how to go about this move, and ultimately decided that when we make ETF's first official WC thread, it should get its own personal subforum in the "join the club" section of the site. Any future WC threads after this one could be made there, as well.
Lastly, I feel I should ask just one more, small question before we go ahead with things: is everyone ready for the move now?
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Personally, I don't see much of a point in waiting. As I said above, a post could be made on the WI thread directing returning MIA members here, and PMs could be sent to semi active members about it as well. But if someone else has a reason for us to wait, I'm all ears
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I think we could go ahead now, but like Twister said, if someone objects, that's okay.
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It's great to see that we've come to a decision! I'm happy with it, in hope that we'll have better Warriors discussions and manage to send any potential new and returning members over here :)
Mm I haven't totally finished up LightningClan's post yet and I'm not sure what Glimmers was going to do for hers, but if you're fine with us just keeping those posts reserved for a little bit then we can go ahead and make the thread and get started, sure. xD I do feel bad that you've been kept waiting this long as it is
Mm I haven't totally finished up LightningClan's post yet and I'm not sure what Glimmers was going to do for hers, but if you're fine with us just keeping those posts reserved for a little bit then we can go ahead and make the thread and get started, sure. xD I do feel bad that you've been kept waiting this long as it is
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Since it doesn't look like there are any objections to moving right away, and I've officially announced our plans on WI, the new club should be here any time, now~
We're just getting some final touches out of the way, then I'll create the subforum and the shiny new thread to go with it. :D
We're just getting some final touches out of the way, then I'll create the subforum and the shiny new thread to go with it. :D
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